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The Heresy of the Sinner's Prayer

Posted on : 28-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Living Your Faith

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UPDATE: I posted a lengthy discussion of this issue entitled ‘American Jesus: A Manifesto’.

I’ve been hearing a lot about this lately. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying it’s wrong to use a prayer to help people confess Christ, but to convince people that they are saved simply because they pray a prayer is ridiculous — it is not the Gospel of the Scripture. This runs deep, it runs at the heart of how the Church never talks about sin anymore.

How do you know you are saved? God has done such a work in your life that you hate the sin you once loved and love the God you once hated.

If you don’t have time, there are four videos in this post. Be sure to watch the third one, which is about nine minutes long. If you have time, first watch this video:

Here is Paul Washer on the problem of the false Gospel, this is less than three minutes:

What do i mean by modern “gospel”? I mean the typical “gospel” presentation that goes something like this:

  • God loves you and has a wonderful plan for your life, He wants to give you peace, happiness, fulfillment, 40 days of a purpose-driven life, will balance your checkbook, make you rich, and grant you your best life now.
  • God is good and man is sinful and there’s this big gap of a separation in between and Jesus is the bridge to that gap.
  • Then we ask questions like:
    • Do you want to go to Heaven
    • Do you recognize that you are a sinner (and the preacher never speaks about how heinous sin really is)
    • Do you want to ask Jesus into your heart and make him your Lord and Savior, because He’s standing at the door knocking, waiting for you to give him permission to save you.
  • This step is usually only done in “evangelistic” meetings, never or rarely one-to-one. Playing soft music and using light dimmers to set the mood (by the way, there’s no Scriptural basis for that, that is just psychological manipulation…it’s metaphysical)
  • Repeat these words after me…then he/she says a sinner’s prayer.
  • If you repeated that prayer and believe that you were sincere, congratulations, you are saved, welcome to the family of God.

If you can find this model in Scripture, please feel free to cite the passage.

For an in depth breakdown of Romans 10, watch this video, which is about nine minutes long. THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT VIDEO, I HOPE YOU WATCH IT:

Paul Washer gives an exegesis on Romans 10:9-10, a text which modern evangelicals use to support the unbiblical altar call model of walking down the aisle, repeating a prayer, signing a card, and if you were sincere you’re saved. Yes people should be sincere when they repent and believe the Gospel, the issue is that many professing Christians are trusting in the sincerity of their decision rather than looking onto the finished work of Christ.

Sure, there are people who do get saved when they repeat a prayer and ask Jesus into their hearts, that would be DESPITE an unbiblical model being used. I do not doubt people’s salvation who came to know the Lord through this model. It has produced many genuine believers, but it has produced far more false conversions.

Do we receive Jesus as John 1 puts it? Yes, we do receive Jesus into our hearts/lives, it means that he becomes everything to us, that to the true Christian Jesus IS their life (read John 6), nowhere in the Gospel call(s) given in the Bible, or the majority of Church History, are sinners told to ASK Jesus into their hearts/lives. In fact, when it comes to the heart, it is God who opens up hearts…and minds, see Acts 16:14.

This blog post spells it out really well if you want to read it. No one reads long posts here, so I am using video for this post. Click here to read more. . . .

Here’s another great one if you have time:

TOM's Shoes

Posted on : 28-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Social Injustice

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I saw this at their website:

Just an opportunity to remember those far less fortunate than us this year.

I hope this isn't your Turkey Day. . .

Posted on : 27-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Uncategorized

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… and if it is and you know me, call me.

Interview with an atheist

Posted on : 25-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Deception, Living Your Faith

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I saw this video over at David Helbig’s blog. All I can say is wow. Some profound thoughts from an atheist, and true thoughts. . . .

The Fine Line

Posted on : 24-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Engaging Culture

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I’ve been interacting with @karyoberbrunner on Twitter, and he’s been telling me about his great new book entitled The Fine Line: Re-envisioning the Gap between Christ and Culture.

From the Back Cover:
What Does It Mean to Be in the World but Not of It?
The Answer May Surprise You.

Christ-followers are supposed to be the most liberated people ever to walk the face of the earth—with a message powerful enough to cause the dead to rise and the blind to see. We’re supposed to have God living inside of us. We’re supposed to know how to be in the world but not of it.

Does that describe your life?

Author Kary Oberbrunner suspects the answer is no, but not because you aren’t passionate about Christ. Rather, it’s because the church has been ripped apart and reassembled into two main camps that, at best, casually tolerate each other.

The first camp separates itself from people, society, and culture for the main purpose of remaining unstained by the world. While the second camp conforms itself to the ideals, philosophies, and goals of the world in an attempt to be all things to all people.

So what’s the alternative? A growing number of people believe in a different way and a different world. They are transformists. And they have the power to change the world.

Care to join them?

This short four-minute video does a great job communicating what the book is about, I recommend you watch it.


The Fine Line Extended Version (HD) from josh franer on Vimeo.

Click the link below to order your copy!

Questions to Ponder:

  • Is it hard to walk the “fine line” between being a separatist or being immersed in the culture?
  • Is it hard to be relevant if one is not somewhat immersed in the culture?
  • How are we to be “in the world but not of it?” What does that mean to you?

Remember Those Who Are Being Persecuted…

Posted on : 24-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : News, Persecution

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Daniel and Heather offered a great reminder of the persecution going on around the world at their blog, Like a Mustard Seed. I almost wept when I read it, check it out. We need these reminders.

In the comments, I wrote “Wow, this post almost had me in tears. I am ashamed that it did not evoke me to weep, my American comfortable numbness set in too quickly. Wow. I need this perspective daily. Lord forgive me for not considering your servants who truly know what it is to suffer for your name.

It’s really humbling, and angering. It angers me how complacent I have become. Most Most Christians in America think that wearing a Christian T-Shirt is living out loud for Jesus, and look at what Rachel and Ali have gone through just to meet privately. Wow….”

Read the post at Like a Mustard Seed. . . .

How Come You Don't Post Much Anymore?

Posted on : 24-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Blogosphere Updates

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Actually, I’d love to post more, but it seems allowing more time in between posts generates more discussion — and that’s good. Be sure to read the comments on these posts, because there’s some great information there and a lot of my replies could be posts in and of themselves. There’s been some great discussion and even some friendly debate on the following posts that you’ll want to check out:

Enjoy! Look for another great post shortly!

Tiny, long-lost primate rediscovered in Indonesia

Posted on : 19-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : News, Tiffany

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You may be surprised to know that my wife is interested in cryptozoology. She sent me an email with this article this morning. Tiffany writes:

This is like a cryptozoology thing (although I don’t remember hearing the name of this animal). They realized that this animal actually exists!! Read the article it is cool. This is something that i think is great!! Remember that cryptozoology is the study of animals that aren’t proven to exist to science… I think this fits this thing, right when people think that they have it all figured out, they find an animal like this that has been surviving on its own without people!! Another amazing creation by God.

The article says:

On a misty mountaintop on the Indonesian island of Sulawesi, scientists for the first time in more than eight decades have observed a living pygmy tarsier, one of the planet’s smallest and rarest primates.

Over a two-month period, the scientists used nets to trap three furry, mouse-sized pygmy tarsiers — two males and one female — on Mt. Rore Katimbo in Lore Lindu National Park in central Sulawesi, the researchers said on Tuesday. . . .

. . . Tarsiers are unusual primates — the mammalian group that includes lemurs, monkeys, apes and people. The handful of tarsier species live on various Asian islands.

As their name indicates, pygmy tarsiers are small — weighing about 2 ounces (50 grammes). They have large eyes and large ears, and they have been described as looking a bit like one of the creatures in the 1984 Hollywood movie “Gremlins.”

They are nocturnal insectivores and are unusual among primates in that they have claws rather than finger nails.

They had not been seen alive by scientists since 1921. In 2000, Indonesian scientists who were trapping rats in the Sulawesi highlands accidentally trapped and killed a pygmy tarsier.

“Until that time, everyone really didn’t believe that they existed because people had been going out looking for them for decades and nobody had seen them or heard them,” Gursky-Doyen said.

Very intriguing! Another amazing creation by God indeed.

Stop Marketing, Start Ministering

Posted on : 18-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Christianity 2.0, Church Marketing

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Recently I posted a video entitled What if Starbucks Marketed Like a Church? I got a lot of good reactions from the video, and it’s best you watch it prior to reading this post, although not necessary. It really made me (and many others) think about how scary church marketing tactics really are — and how inauthentic and fake many church folks are. Remember, this blog does not exist to bash the church as an organism (the true Church, the Body of Christ), but to critique the church as an organization — which it was never intended to be.

I saw a great article over at Church Marketing Sucks entitled Tony Morgan Thinks Churches Should Stop Marketing.

Tony Morgan, chief strategic officer at NewSpring Church in Anderson, S.C., co-author of the Simply Strategic Series, former pastor at Granger Community Church and author of the soon-to-be-released Killing Cockroaches (and we’ve interviewed Tony and linked to him on dozens of occasions), says that marketing is evil and your church should stop.

So what is Tony talking about? Essentially, he says ministry trumps marketing. If we try to fix the church’s problems with marketing, we’re going to fail. The article says:

“Direct mail won’t fix your problem. Billboards won’t fix your problem. Neither will platform announcements or bulletin ads or bumper stickers. At some point marketing may be a good option, but until you answer the right questions, marketing could be what’s preventing your success.

If your church has stopped growing, marketing is not your solution. If you have stopped seeing life change, marketing is not the answer.”

And to that, we say amen.

But as much as we love Tony, he’s a little off base.

The articles goes on to disagree with Morgan and explains why churches should continue marketing. However, I think Morgan is correct. Tony Morgan also recommends that people stop reading the Church Marketing Sucks blog. I’m going to take his advice. Morgan goes on to say:

Marketing is becoming a barrier to the advancement of the Gospel message. It’s becoming a hindrance for the church. Ministry is being negatively impacted because churches are attempting to use marketing tactics to reach people for Jesus and help them take steps in their faith. [emphasis added]

AMEN! Why does the church continue to use the methods of the world to reach people for Christ? Jesus very simply (and literally) said,

“Then having gone, disciple all nations, baptizing them into the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things, whatever I commanded you. And, behold, I am with you all the days until the completion of the age. Amen” (Matthew 29:19-20, LITV).

Note that “Go” is not a command in the Great Commission in the original Greek, it is best translated “having gone” or “while [you are] going”. The only command here is to disciple, and then the methods of doing so are given: baptizing and teaching. So while you are going, disciple everyone in the world by baptizing and teaching them. Then Jesus gives us a great promise: I’m not leaving you alone to do this, I am with you. That’s awesome!

You see, it is assumed that we will go about our business — life happens. But as we go, we are to disciple people along the way.

Understanding discipleship is helpful. Discipleship is not a church program or agenda, nor is it a curriculum that can be completed and finished with a spiritual gifts inventory and placement into a church program or activity. Discipling goes beyond witnessing, it’s the nurturing of a new Christian’s faith and the parenting of the new Christian into maturity. This cannot be effectively accomplished by investing one hour per week into someone or by having them complete a workbook. Jesus traveled, ate, slept, and hung out with his twelve disciples for three years prior to sending them His Spirit and cutting them loose. Paul spent three years in Arabia prior to preaching the Gospel in Damascus (Galatians 1:17). Many others are prepared by intense mentoring prior to being sent into leadership roles in various churches.

The pattern and example is clear: discipleship only occurs by investing time into people’s lives and walking with them through the daily grind of life — the good and bad times. This can’t be taught in a program or agenda, this can only be lived. The institutional church has done a great job at filling the minds of young men with vast amounts of knowledge yet leaving them with only infant-level emotional maturity (these men lead many institutional churches today). It has done a great job at allowing complacent Americans to remain willfully ignorant of the true Gospel of Jesus Christ. You cannot possibly disciple people adequately without forming deep relationships with them.

But this cannot be done with our culture’s capitalist focus on church growth. Rapid growth is expected, and it is measured by weekly attendance and giving totals. People are viewed as being either assets or liabilities, and the board of Elders spends more time examining budget proposals and accounting worksheets than it does praying that the church’s “love may abound more and more in knowledge and depth of insight, so that [it] may be able to discern what is best and may be pure and blameless until the day of Christ, filled with the fruit of righteousness that comes through Jesus Christ—to the glory and praise of God” (Philippians 1:9-11). This blame is put on all who view the church as an organization rather than as an organism, not just pastors and leaders. Many times pastors understand that this is wrong but must comply with his or her congregation’s wishes to grow, Grow, GROW!

So how should we “make disciples” if we don’t use marketing tactics? How will we get people to come to church? The same way Jesus drew crowds of thousands who were willing to listen to Him speak without food for three days: word-of-mouth. Of course this involves telling people about Jesus as you are going (not about your church), and does not take kindly to a “Come and See” approach which most churches advocate.

Instead of sending a direct mailer to the community, why not focus on discipling a small group of core people and watching their lives be transformed. When this happens, they won’t be able to help but tell people about Jesus and what He has done in their lives. Instead of support-raising money to purchase a building and “praying in faith” for God to pay the bills, take your small group of people and meet in the intimacy of your home regularly until your living room can no longer accommodate the guests. This may take three years or more, but exercising patience and doing things in God’s timing is better than using worldly marketing tactics to plant churches in some man-made “cookie-cutter” pattern. Instead of finding musicians to lead worship without really getting to know and disciple them, first spend time with them to determine if they have a heart of worship or simply a passion for music. It is better to have a mediocre musician with a heart for worship on an acoustic guitar with no sound system than to have a full praise band of talented musicians and great sound but no depth or revelation of Jesus Christ behind it. Granted, talented musicians can create an “atmosphere” or “mood” that misguided Christians call “worship”, but true worship has far more to do with how we live on Monday than how we sing on Sunday. You need to be sure that your worship leader spends more time talking to God than he or she does talking about God, and this will be evident in the way they live.

Finally, churches need to cultivate a passion for God in their fellow Christ-followers. Many pastors and churches have a passion for evangelism, or for missions, or for preaching, or for whatever. . . . but few simply have a passion for God. Without that, all other passions are useless preoccupations with man-made strategies. Paul Washer says this well in his message entitled “Jesus Christ is Not a Yuppie’s Accessory”, which I recommend you all watch (click the title to see the video).

What we need is for all true Christians to realize that they are ministers, literally “servants.” We are not here to lead others, Christ can handle that Himself. We are here to point others to the only Good Shepherd, Jesus Christ Himself. We do this by a life of service and sacrifice, not by a life marked by pride and organizational development. There is no such thing as a “part-time Christian.” Christianity makes you a new creation, it is not just a mere belief shift — it changes who you are. When you become a Christian, you become a full-time minister, your job is your mission field. Your life is now all about Christ. As Paul Washer says in his above-mentioned message, Jesus Christ is not an accessory to your life — He IS your life!

There are too many Christians who claim Christ as their Master but deny this by how they live — myself included. But I am dedicated to becoming the man Christ has created me to be, and I must die to my flesh daily in order to accomplish that (more on this in a future post). Christianity 2.0 is the awakening of the true followers of Jesus. People are beginning to realize that the way we “do church” doesn’t work — the whole system is flawed. Christianity 2.0 is about returning the focus of Christianity to the people, not to organizational needs and challenges. Christ came to seek and save lost people, not to set up divisive administrations with complex bylaws and governmental legislation. We must stop focusing on man-made strategy (marketing) and start seeking how we can serve others (ministry).

I’m going to close with the lyrics to a song entitled “Expectations” by Caedmon’s Call / Andrew Osenga. It’s on Caedmon’s Overdressed album to which you should definitely listen. My wife wept when she first heard this song, it touched my heart when I first heard it as well, because we both identify with this completely:

that boy had the highest of expectations
and he heard that Jesus would fill him up
maybe something got lost in the language
if this was full, then why bother?

this was not the way it looked on the billboard
smiling family beaming down on the interstate

and you know that we all try to blame someone
when our dreams won’t rise up from their sleep
and the reaching of the steeple felt like one more
expensive ad for something cheap

this was not the way it looked on the billboard
smiling family beaming down on the interstate

he dressed up nice for the congregation
scared somebody’s gonna find him out
through the din and the clatter of the hallelujahs
a stained-glass Jesus sings.

this was not the way it looked on the billboard
smiling family beaming down on the interstate

Christ Follower vs. Christian

Posted on : 13-11-2008 | By : Dan | In : Christianity 2.0

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Apple launched an advertising campaign you may be familiar with called Mac vs. PC. I stumbled across a parody of these videos called “Christ Follower vs. Christian” that I thought was pretty entertaining. Don’t worry, this is not becoming a video log (vlog), I will still be writing more great content, but some things are best communicated visually, and I want to give everyone at least one more day to digest the “Great Tensions of our Faith” post. These videos are all relatively short, but thought-provoking. Please note I am not trying to bash using the term ‘Christian’ or advocate an ulterior movement, I just think this is hilarious and accurately reflects stereotypes that my generation holds of ‘Christians’ today. As you watch, ask yourself if they appear to be justified stereotypes or not. For more of my thoughts concerning the terms “Christ Follower” and “Christian,” see my post entitled Nonreligious Christian Spirituality.

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3

Part 4

Part 5

Part 6

It helps to see the original Mac vs. PC ads to grasp the full humor behind this. . . .

For more of my thoughts concerning the terms “Christ Follower” and “Christian,” see my post entitled Nonreligious Christian Spirituality.